Saturday, August 15

"Firing into the Brown" #104 - Hyacinth, Madagascar and stuff..

"So Carnehan weeds out the pick of his men, and sets the two of the Army to show them drill and at the end of two weeks the men can manoeuvre about as well as Volunteers. So he marches with the Chief to a great big plain on the top of a mountain, and the Chiefs men rushes into a village and takes it; we three Martinis firing into the brown of the enemy".

Kipling "The Man Who Would Be King"

Time for another update.. 
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Hyacinth's death notice - according to the Bank of
England inflation calculator that legacy is worth
about £6.5M in todays currency.. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
You may remember in my previous post (or maybe not ๐Ÿ˜) that I had had my interest piqued by the story of Major Hyacinth Lynch [clicky], while at the Wiltshire and Berkshire Museum the other week, and had decided that I needed to go and find his grave, which was in a cemetery fairly local to me..

I have managed to get down to Highland Road cemetery (where he is buried) but before I get to that, I've also been doing a little digging about to find out more about the man himself..

Apparently, he was the son of one Christopher Lynch of Dublin (so he was born in Ireland) and was the only son - he had three sisters:
- Teresa (who married George Liston, Solicitor in 1885),
- Minnie (married James Sproule in 1879)
- Lizzie (married Dr Godfrey Sproule also in 1879 - brother of the one Minnie married I think).

In 1898, when he retired from the army, Hyacinth married  Augusta Eliza Royds (nee Lemonius); she was the widow of Edmund A.N. Royds. 

Augusta predeceased him dying in 1911. She would have been 9 years older than him, and although they had no children, she had 5 from her previous marriage to Edmund Royds who, according to my digging around, was the favoured son of a banking family based in Lancashire (his father owned the bank and cut out the eldest son from the will due to a falling out, leaving it all to him).

Hyacinth then married again in 1920, to one Jane Evelyn Seton Miller (nee Stewart). She was also a widow - this time of of J.J.W. Miller, a successful land agent - but she also predeceased him, dying in 1928. Not much on Jane to be found, though she did live in Hove for a time - a local connection - and there is one reference to a court case indicating she had received £50K from a trust set up by her father. Interestingly, when she was married to Miller and living in Hove, the census of 1911 showed they had 12 servants - they were not short of money.. ๐Ÿค”

I'm beginning to wonder if Hyacinth married himself rich.. ๐Ÿ˜

The only question in my mind now is why he was buried in Portsmouth - the death notice above indicates he was living in London (either at his residence or the club!) and that address is in Knightsbridge...  we know that following his decline with dementia he spent the rest of his days in a care home after one of his sisters took care of him - I wonder if the care home was in Portsmouth, so as to be near the sister??

Anyway - here's his location in Highland Road Cemetery


...but despite a good hour and a half poking and digging around I have not yet found the specific grave - it's in this area somewhere - more than likely under one of those bushes - I've not given up on Hyacinth yet, though...  a return visit is planned.. ๐Ÿ˜Š

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No, not that one.. ๐Ÿ˜
A rabbit hole has also been investigated and a fascinating rabbit hole indeed....

You may remember my interest was also piqued in the recent regimental museum visit by a reference to the invasion of Madagascar..  why piqued? Well one, I'd never heard of this action, but second, I was once best man for a guy who was absolutely fascinated by the island (specifically the ring tailed lemurs, which you can only find on Madagascar! ๐Ÿ˜), he even went on honeymoon there... even when the Seychelles and Mauritius was only just across the way from it! ๐Ÿ˜

For all the fact that the Dieppe raid later in the year was posited as giving invaluable experience for the later landings in NW Europe, 'Operation Ironclad'   (the code name for the first phase of the campaign to capture Madagascar), which took place in May 1942, was the first major amphibious operation by the Allies that involved all three armed forces and was probably a much better learning experience... add to that it was also successful!

So why did the Allies invade??  We love a map, and one look at this one will show you why it was considered SO important..


The island is the red dotted one, and at the time in question was under Vichy control. By February '42 both Singapore (at the end of the Malaysia peninsula), and Malaysia had already fallen to the Japanese, giving them easy access to the Indian Ocean from major sea ports those conquests had provided. They had already launched operations with submarines (Penang was a submarine base) and aircraft carriers (probably based in Singapore) into the Bay of Bengal, and in the north and east of the Indian Ocean, so much so, that the British fleet protecting that area had had to withdraw to Kenya (south of Somalia in the map).


The Allied main concerns then were that Vichy would come to an arrangement with Japan to allow use of  the island's port facilities for the Japanese navy (and they had submarines with the range to get their and operate from it). Should that happen the convoy routes to the 8th Army in North Africa (green line) and India would be threatened, and control of the island and the port facilities would also allow increased activity against India (yellow) where Burma was now effectively the front line. Denying the island to the Japanese would also provide protection for the British fleet now based in Kenya and go some way to restoring parity over control of the Indian Ocean.

Clearly a "no brainer".. 

'Operation Ironclad', was aimed at seizing Madagascar's main port, Diego-Suarez, located near the northern tip of the island, on 5 May 1942. To do this a naval and army task force was assembled and known as Force 121, it was under the command of Major-General Robert Sturgess (interestingly, a Royal Marine)

It comprised 
  • multiple Royal Naval vessels usually part of the Mediterranean fleet, including the battleship HMS Ramillies, the aircraft carriers HMS Illustrious and Indomitable, two cruisers, eleven destroyers, and other auxiliary and support ships. 
  • an invasion force around 10,000 strong, including No.5 (Army) Commandos, the 29th Independent Infantry Brigade, and two brigades of the 5th Infantry Division (which was where the Wiltshire's come in). It also included troops from the Indian army, and the armies of South and North Rhodesia, and South Africa. All arms were represented - infantry, engineers, artillery, and tanks (only a dozen - six each of Valentines and Tetrarchs)
  • Air cover was Fairey Albacore and Fairey Swordfish torpedo bombers supplied by the RAF and Fleet Air Arm and flying from the aircraft carriers. There were also Grumman Martlets as well as planes from the Royal South African Air Force (who provided the air recon).
Liked this - piccie courtesy Wikipedia

Facing Force 121 were around 8,000 troops commanded by Governor-General Armand Lรฉon Annet. Most of these were conscripted Malagasy (Madagascan) or Senegalese soldiers, and only a quarter of these were concentrated round Diego-Suarez. Vichy naval and air defences were light just a few fighter planes and bombers, but it was defended by eight coastal batteries. The naval contingent comprised just two armed merchant cruisers and three French submarines.

So how did it go?
  • the beach landings met with virtually no resistance and these troops seized the Vichy coastal batteries and barracks. 
    • a landing in Courier Bay by the British 17th Infantry Brigade took the town of Diego-Suarez and captured a hundred prisoners. 
    • a landing in Ambararata Bay by 29th Independent Brigade supported by the tanks was tasked with capturing the port - initial light resistance was overcome but the port itself was defended  with trenches, redoubts, pillboxes, and flanked on both sides by impenetrable swamps. 
    • Arrachart airfield nearby was attacked, and fighters and bombers were destroyed or damaged. 
The next morning 
  • a frontal assault on the port area again failed with the loss of three Valentines and two Tetrarchs
  • in the air a Vichy attempt to bomb the beach area was intercepted by Martlets and two of the three bombers were shot down.
  • Albacores bombed the French defences and a Swordfish managed to sink the submarine Le Hรฉros.
I think it safe to say that the Allies were a bit surprised by the strength of the Vichy defences round the port (known as the Joffre Line); by the end of the second day, 10 out of the 12 tanks were destroyed and they still hadn't taken it. 

An assault by the South Lancashire's (the 2nd Battalion) round the flanks of the defences, through the swamps, succeeded (barracks and radio station were captured, and prisoners taken) but they had to withdraw due to radio failure.

The deadlock was broken in the end when the destroyer HMS Anthony sailed past the harbour defences and landed 50 Royal Marines behind the defences. The Marines (who were the regular Marine contingent from HMS Ramillies rather than the better known commando branch) created "disturbance in the town out of all proportion to their numbers" - shock and awe indeed! The bootnecks captured the French artillery command post along with its barracks and the naval depot - well done the Royals! 

The 17th Infantry Brigade had also broken through the defence and the port area surrendered that evening - fighting continued into 7 May, but by the end of that day, Operation Ironclad had concluded. 

In three days of fighting, the British had 109 men killed and 283 wounded, with the French suffering 700 casualties.

Operations Stream, Line and Jane were then launched to capture the rest of the island but not until  several months later in September - the port had always been the prime target. Once these were complete (November) the island was handed over to the Free French to govern.

Excellent! That would make a really nice wargame campaign [clicky]... told you..๐Ÿ˜

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 Laters, as the young people are want to say...

Saturday, August 8

I have been to.. The Rifles Berkshire and Wiltshire Museum

Time for another update..  and I've been travelling..

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Picture courtesy visitwiltshire.co.uk
I happened to be in Salisbury this week on a dual mission, one of which involved beer, but the other of which was a long planned visit to the museum of the Wiltshire and Berkshire Regiments..

Dedicated to those two regimens and their antecedents and subsequents (is that even a word? ๐Ÿ˜) succeeding, formations. 

This is a cracking little museum - quite small, in fact only one floor of that magnificent house pictured  (known as 'The Wardrobe' due to one of its connections, which is to the Cathedral opposite)...  in fact the house has had almost as many changes of use as the regiments the museum now represents!

These two veteran county regiments, like many others in the British army to be fair, have a very tortuous and convoluted lineage.. but to try and summarise... 
  • The Royal Berkshire Regiment was formed in 1881 (as a result of the Childers Reforms), by the amalgamation of two regiments: the 49th Regiment of Foot (which became the 1st Battalion) and the 66th Regiment of Foot (which became the 2nd Battalion) - these two single battalion regiments had been 'linked' in the earlier Cardwell reforms (the Cardwell Reforms were enacted  to among other things increase efficiency by linking single battalion regiments, and assigning them to a specific geographic area so as to improve supply lines, recruitment, etc.) :
    • The 49th (Princess Charlotte of Wales’s) Regiment of Foot, originated in 1655 in Jamaica as a number of independent company's formed as defence during the the Anglo Spanish war after Britain had captured Jamaica ("no, she came of her own accord" ๐Ÿ˜‚). Recognised as a regiment in 1743 (originally as the 66th, it became the 49th in 1751). The regiment served in all the corners of the world and in most of the British armies campaigns, including the the American War of Independence, the War of 1812, the Napoleonic Wars, the 1st Opium War, and the Crimea (where men in the regiment won three Victoria Crosses). 
    • The 66th (Berkshire) Regiment of Foot, raised in 1758, also saw active service across the British Empire including the Napoleonic Wars, the Anglo-Nepalese War and the 2nd Afghan War. This was also the regiment (the 2nd Battalion) that acted as Bonaparte's guard garrison on St Helena - in fact six of the regiments grenadiers were the coffin bearers.
Spot the Martini-Henry.. 

After it's formation, the 1st Battalion then deployed to Egypt in 1882 where the regiment got it's Royal status as a result of it's performance at Tofrek (1885), it also fought at Ginnis (1885) and Suakin (1888). The 2nd Battalion meanwhile were in South Africa and served in the Boer War. 

During WW1 (where the regiment expanded by 12 battalions!), 1st and 2nd Battalions were on the western front. Now it gets a bit esoteric, as at least one company of 2nd Battalion were engaged in the Russian Civil War (!) in 1919. 

Crimean War display - packed with artefacts and information..

During WW2, after 1st Battalion was evacuated from Dunkirk, both senior* Battalions served in Burma throughout (*the regiment again expanded by nine territorial battalions during the war, some of which were engaged in Sicily/Italy, and some of which were in NW Europe - 5th Battalion, for example landed at Juno Beach ).

  • The Wiltshire Regiment was also formed in 1881 as a result of the Childers Reforms (and were also linked in the Cardwell Reforms), this time by the amalgamation of the 62nd Regiment of Foot and the 99th Regiment of Foot. 
    •  The 62nd (Wiltshire) Regiment of Foot, was raised in 1756, and served with distinction in multiple campaigns including the 7YW, the American War of Independence, the Napoleonic Wars (where they served among many other places in Egypt!), and later, in the first Anglo-Sikh War (Battle of Ferozeshah) and the Crimea.
    • The 99th (Lanarkshire) Regiment of Foot, raised in 1824, also served widely across the British Empire including the 1st Maori War, the 2nd Opium War and the Zulu War, along with long periods of garrison duty in Australia and Mauritius.

After it's formation only 2nd Battalion saw action - in South Africa for the Boer War, for the vast majority of the time I'm guessing the regiment saw fairly typical Imperial army service - garrison duties in Burma, India and (peacetime) South Africa. 

I was always going to be very interested in the Sudan displays for obvious reasons.. ๐Ÿ˜

This all changed with WW1 of course, the two senior battalions (they also raised another 8 for war service) were on the Western Front throughout (wining 60 battle honours but losing over 5000 men)

Between the wars other than a company of the 1st Battalion that also went to serve in the Russian Civil War (that's a rabbit hole I need to explore, as I know another connection as well) most of the time they were in garrison in the likes of Singapore, Hong Kong, Shanghai, India and Palestine.

During WW2 (and the regiment raised an addition 6 war battalions), 

  • 1st Battalion was in India and apart from a year in Burma (Arakan front) it remained there until Independence in 1947.
  • 2nd Battalion deployed straight to France in 1939 and was evacuated from Dunkirk. In April 1942, it was part of the invasion of Madagascar (another rabbit hole! I had no idea this had happened), then the invasion of Sicily, and the campaign in Italy

Then in 1959, these two regiments were then themselves amalgamated (again) to form The Duke of Edinburgh's Royal Regiment (Berkshire and Wiltshire), the regiment served all over the world (Cyrpus and Hong Kong notably) and had six tours of duty in Northern Ireland during the troubles..

Martini Henry and Jezail - which would you rather have? ๐Ÿ˜ Tulwar at bottom..

In 1994, as part of further army restructuring, the regiment was amalgamated (again - what's that fourth time? ๐Ÿ˜) with the Gloucestershire Regiment to form The Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire and Wiltshire Regiment, it served in Bosnia, Kosovo and again in Northern Ireland. The regiment only lasted a little over ten years before the final changes started and the regiment was renamed The Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire and Wiltshire Light Infantry (RGBWLI) - change of role/function. 

After a spell on service in Afghanistan, that change of role (to light infantry) then fed into another amalgamation (the fifth in their history?) with the The Devonshire and Dorset Regiment in 2005. In 2007 they became 1st Battalion of  The Rifles (the other battalions of this new regiment were provided by The Royal Green Jackets and The Light Infantry).

Been 19 years now - must be time for another amalgamation? ๐Ÿ˜’

...another from the Sudan display..

Amazing visit - the Museum is chock full of displays and information (as you can see from the pictures), and I learned a whole lot more as a result of the visit not only about the regiments themselves, but also about the Childers and Cardwell Reforms (as an aside, in addition to the regimental "linking" mentioned above, purchase of commissions also ended with this Reform).

..and last of all another rabbit hole to investigate - I was very much taken with the story of this guy - what first got my attention was the truly magnificent moustache, but then his name which apparently, I now learn, was a traditional boys name back in the day, only in more modern times has it become more commonly associated with girls/women. These things aside, what a life story..  and such a sad, sad ending (dementia is a bastard disease), but, Highland Road Cemetery is in Pompey - and I think I'm going to take Gertrude for a ride and go and find him to pay my respects..  

Saturday, August 1

"Firing into the Brown" #104 - Mulberry, coaches and stuff...

"So Carnehan weeds out the pick of his men, and sets the two of the Army to show them drill and at the end of two weeks the men can manoeuvre about as well as Volunteers. So he marches with the Chief to a great big plain on the top of a mountain, and the Chiefs men rushes into a village and takes it; we three Martinis firing into the brown of the enemy".

Kipling "The Man Who Would Be King"

Time for another update.. and while still glacial, so wargaming activity has taken place
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First though - I was out on Gertrude this week and took these at the southernmost point of the journey, while slurping a flat white from the adjacent cafรฉ..


..a bunch of rocks to most, but for those of us in the know [clicky], those concrete blocks are some of  the remains of a WW2 Mulberry construction site - they built Phoenix (type C) caissons on this very beach - in fact I was sat on one of the anchor blocks to drink that coffee - amazing, eh?

Picture credit: Mike Beel collection

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...and look what arrived in the post this week - now what could that mean?? ๐Ÿ˜

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 Laters, as the young people are want to say...

Saturday, July 25

"Firing into the Brown" #103 - BOTS, Arromanche and stuff...

"So Carnehan weeds out the pick of his men, and sets the two of the Army to show them drill and at the end of two weeks the men can manoeuvre about as well as Volunteers. So he marches with the Chief to a great big plain on the top of a mountain, and the Chiefs men rushes into a village and takes it; we three Martinis firing into the brown of the enemy".

Kipling "The Man Who Would Be King"

Time for a long overdue update.. 

I kind of feel the need to apologise for the lack of updates (no idea why but you do feel beholden to your reader [singular ๐Ÿ˜]), but it's summer - one of the hottest in the UK (officially) since the long hot summer of 1976 (and that was a belter) but that means the loft is stuffy, sweaty and hot, and errr... the boat is not... ๐Ÿ˜

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Ludicrous..  ๐Ÿ˜  Especially noteworthy is how the activity ramped up from about January last year - just as Google (who own the Blogger platform, and must be rubbing their hands at the size of the free  data lake on their doorstep) and the others were going big with their new AI tools.

(PS. My thanks to the Emperor Elector blog, though..  apparently they are still the fourth most popular way that people find this tiny little dark and dusty corner of the web! ๐Ÿ‘)

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"I have been to"...  Arromanches!

Despite the lack of any meaningful wargaming activity, the current Mrs Steve the Wargamer and I have however managed to get away for three or four days in France, Normandy to be precise. Any hopes that it might be cooler there were dashed of course; temperatures in northern France while we were there were topping 38'C - oh well - the coach and the hotel had AC! ๐Ÿ˜

This was an organised tour, and had attractions for both of us; based in Rouen (Joan of Arc was burnt at the stake there, and it was an English garrison/stronghold during the 100 Years War), we also visited Honfleur (tick - boats!), but while the draw for the memsahib was Monet's House and Gardens (including the lily pond) the draw for me was a trip to Arromanches (some military history at last!). 

More precisely Arromanches-les-Bains, the town was in the middle of Gold beach, but even more importantly was subsequently the site of the Mulberry B (British) artificial harbour..


The Museum is new, and replaces the old one, that I think I went to over 50 years ago - this one has only been open 3 or 4 years. The old one was demolished and is now gardens at the back of the current museum.

New museum left, old museum gardens behind it - if you look carefully there's a Sherman up on the hill to the right of the road..

Gold Beach was in the British (and Canadian) sector (see map above) and was allocated to the 50th Northumbrian "Tyne Tees" Infantry Division - there's a couple of reminders in front of the museum.. got to love an M3 half track ever since my Airfix days..  ๐Ÿ˜



...and of course a 25pdr with it's "TT" (Tyne Tees) divisional markings.. the second badge (44 in a red over blue square) indicates that this gun was in the third (of three) Field Artillery Regiments in the Division ..


...and so to the museum - how was it? In a word, rammed..  lots of people, but they have these excellent over the ears headsets, with a key pad allowing you to select each of the exhibits in turn, and have added information. The headphones are very good, but a bit awkward if you wear reading glasses as you have to take them on on and off with the glasses. ๐Ÿ˜

There's a lot of information in there on the combatants of both sides, weapons , uniforms and so forth, but by far the greater focus is on the Mulberry, in fact it could probably be called the Mulberry Museum and nothing wrong with that, the subject is fascinating..

They have a huge amount of information and background on the construction and types of units that go to make up the Mulberry harbour (which I have touched on previously here [clicky] and here [clicky] as I have a local connection) but by far the most fascinating feature of the museum was a 1:72 scale model featuring all elements of the harbour..  roadway, caissons of various types (code name Phoenix) and block ships (code name Corncob) but for me the best but was showing how the Allies actually unloaded cargo..

Large transport unloading - note the wooden ramps to the Mulberry


Better view of same - in the background a floating pier head (known as Spuds) held in place by four legs that sat anchored to the sea bed


Better view of the pier head - to the left the road to the shore (code name "Whale") supported on barges (code name "Beetle") - the vehicles give an excellent idea of the scale of this damn thing - it was huge! There would have been other pier heads, floating piers and roadways  either side of this one, and in the centre at least one further road to the shore..


LCT (Landing Craft Tank - one of which we have also seen previously here [clicky]) unloading directly to the pier head..  


What an absolute feat of engineering - stunning!


...and this is what it would have looked like at the time...

"View of the Mulberry B harbour "Port Winston" at Arromanches in September 1944. Centre and left are "spud" pierheads with floating piers of "whales" and "beetles". At right is 2,000 ft (610 m) of "Swiss roll"." Piccie courtesy Wikipedia

"Swiss roll" by the way was the code name for a kind of lightweight flexible road/track system made of waterproofed canvas reinforced with slats and tensioned by cables - it would take up to a 7 ton truck...

A quite surprising amount of Port Winston survives despite over 80 years of Channel weather, and still visible from the beach - it was a bit breezy and hazy but the following shows the remains of the end of one of those two central roadways that services the pier heads


...and you'll have to embiggen this one (following) for a panoramic of the sweep of the harbour..  by the by..  you can also see why the Allies picked this coast for the invasion - at low tide huge sweeps of sand are revealed..


So how successful was it in in it's designed role? This Mulberry was used for ten months after D-Day, and  landed over two million men, four million tons of supplies and half a million vehicles  before it was fully decommissioned. Against that though the Americans (whose Mulberry was damaged beyond repair in storms) landed their supplies direct to the beaches. There is an interesting graph in the Wiki Mulberry article below that shows they were landing more on Utah beach alone than the Mulberry by DDay+30..  having said that - in the period up to then, when quick reinforcement was paramount, the Mulberry was key...

Very much recommended!

More reading:

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 Laters, as the young people are want to say... hopefully not as long this time..  ๐Ÿ˜

Saturday, June 6

"Firing into the Brown" #102 - D-Day, Gosport Advanced Lines photo'd by the Luftwaffe (!) and stuff...

"So Carnehan weeds out the pick of his men, and sets the two of the Army to show them drill and at the end of two weeks the men can manoeuvre about as well as Volunteers. So he marches with the Chief to a great big plain on the top of a mountain, and the Chiefs men rushes into a village and takes it; we three Martinis firing into the brown of the enemy".

Kipling "The Man Who Would Be King"

Time for another (long over due) update..

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It ill behoves me on todays very special date not to make mention of what will be the 82nd Anniversary of Operation Neptune, or what is better known as D-Day

Commandos of HQ 4th Special Service Brigade, coming ashore from LCI(S) landing craft on Nan Red beach, Juno area, at St Aubin-sur-Mer, 6 June 1944. Image: IWM (B 5218)

Time to remember all those brave men and women who went ashore, aided those going ashore, flew over to protect, and landed from above on that day.. what a generation...

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Something popped up on a  Farcebook feed today, and as is the way of maps and aerial pictures got my interest levels up far higher than any average normal persons would have been..  ๐Ÿ˜

So you may remember my visits to Bastion #1 [clicky] and a couple of years ago to Battery #2 [clicky] at Stokes Bay, and that certainly after the visit to Bastion #1 I expressed an interest in tracing some of the Gosport Lines. That should be Lines plural of course, as the original lines, or fortifications, that Bastion #1 was part of, were then superseded by the Advanced Lines ('advanced' because they were further out from what they were built to protect due to advances in the artillery technology of the time) Battery #2 could be considered part of the advanced lines..

So what was it that popped up on Farcebook?? This.. 

...which comes comes courtesy of the Luftwaffe (๐Ÿ˜) and was taken in September 1943 apparently. It is one, a stupendously clear and informative picture, and two, shows in crystal clarity the five major forts that formed the western facing Gosport Advanced Lines, way before the population and building density ramped up to current levels..

This is them today.. I've labelled them for clarity.. note the effects of 80 odd years of humans breeding and building! ๐Ÿ˜

West at top - Solent on the left..

The forts run north to south (with Battery #2 being furthest south).. Forts Elson, Grange, and Rowner are all situated within MoD establishments so are only open to the public rarely*. Gomer was demolished in 1964 and a housing estate was built on it. 

This next one is again courtesy of the Luftwaffe and taken in September '42 - it was a lovely day, clearly.. Forts Gomer (bottom), Grange and Rowner are clear, and what I think is a tree lined road running behind them..


Finally, this picture dates from just after WW2 - note the runways between Grange and Rowner, I suspect we'll come back to them at some point.. ๐Ÿ˜


*Fingers crossed there may be an opportunity to visit Forts Grange and Rowner with the Palmerston Forts Society in August..

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Laters, as the young people are want to say... and the Remuda game will appear at some time!